tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post7953571016175053222..comments2024-03-02T10:59:57.083-05:00Comments on Mahjongg blog: Are you dead? Can I have your joker?Lindahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-77609001509597608832023-09-28T19:24:19.686-04:002023-09-28T19:24:19.686-04:00According to the League (Mahjongg Made Easy 2020 p...According to the League (Mahjongg Made Easy 2020 page 24) - No jokers exposred prior to a concealed hand being declared dead are redeemable, since they were part of an incorrect exposure.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-50393429530516279812023-09-27T21:31:09.997-04:002023-09-27T21:31:09.997-04:00If a player declares maj and she is playing a conc...If a player declares maj and she is playing a concealed hand and calls foe a tile and displays the tile she called for and later declares maj. since her hand is dead, can you call for her jokers?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-18834878391597925692023-09-07T10:23:59.315-04:002023-09-07T10:23:59.315-04:00Hello - only exposures that were already on top of...Hello - only exposures that were already on top of the rack before the hand went dead are eligible for joker redemption. Since no exposures were previously made before mahjongg in error was declared, no jokers are available. Sorry! Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-82647739798894438762023-09-06T00:33:14.822-04:002023-09-06T00:33:14.822-04:00Another joker redeeming question...a player called...Another joker redeeming question...a player called for mahjong and exposed all her tiles at once as she had not made any prior exposures. (Not a closed hand). Every tile except one element, the last, was incorrect. She put out a pung of 8 dots and it should have been a pung of 7 bams. The pung of 8's contained a joker. Can any of her jokers be swapped out by remaining players on subsequent turns or, are all her tiles dead? Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-51590559483376313922023-07-29T09:48:22.421-04:002023-07-29T09:48:22.421-04:00The joker in the 5 crak kong may be redeemed after...The joker in the 5 crak kong may be redeemed after the hand was declared dead. The best way to do it is once the hand is declared dead, whichever tiles were exposed previously should remain atop the rack, while any other tiles should be returned to the sloping part of the rack and the player stops playing. The only exception to this would be is if a player declared mahjongg on a concealed hand and it turned out she had made an exposure that should not have been made (since the hand was concealed) then ALL tiles go back into the sloping part of the rack and no jokers can be redeemed. Hope this helps!Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-54303474819745686312023-07-28T12:47:48.304-04:002023-07-28T12:47:48.304-04:00I am still not clear on taking jokers from an expo...I am still not clear on taking jokers from an exposed dead hand. Player one exposed 4, 5 cracks, one of which was a joker for the kong. On the next round, same player called mah jongg and happily exposed her hand! (We were all so excited because she is a newbie!) But alas, she used a joker in a pair, (she forgot the rule) and we all called her hand dead. Play resumed with the other 3 remaining players. One of those players picked up a 5 crack on her next turn and wanted to exchange it from the dead hand. Remember, the 4, 5 cracks were exposed during a turn PRIOR to the hand being declared dead. Can the other player exchange the 5 crack for a joker? Thanks in advance for your response!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-66638198766185690862022-01-08T11:21:23.936-05:002022-01-08T11:21:23.936-05:00Mah Jongg Made Easy, page 24, paragraph 17 (2020 e...Mah Jongg Made Easy, page 24, paragraph 17 (2020 edition) states: "If an incorrect exposure results in a "dead hand," but it is not realized until later in a game, jokers in that exposure are not available for redemption." Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-37306728256175792182022-01-07T17:26:38.446-05:002022-01-07T17:26:38.446-05:00Player was declared dead AFTER play went around ta...Player was declared dead AFTER play went around table and after she exposed - with a joker that exposure.<br />So the dead hand and joker were not declared immediately. Can that joker be taken?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15825434532876409418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-49355732926259161512020-03-11T10:46:56.667-04:002020-03-11T10:46:56.667-04:00Yes. When playing with four - if one player decla...Yes. When playing with four - if one player declares mahjongg in error and the other two players throw in their hands, the player who declared pays the last player standing twice the value of the hand of the player who declared mahjongg in error. If the players went dead for any other reason, the game ceases and no one gets paid.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-39889877551475399592020-03-10T23:19:19.541-04:002020-03-10T23:19:19.541-04:00is it the same rule if playing with 4 people and 3...is it the same rule if playing with 4 people and 3 have dead handsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04878121827063936865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-80968701495557898982019-11-01T10:51:11.690-04:002019-11-01T10:51:11.690-04:00A player should not declare herself dead. It is u...A player should not declare herself dead. It is up to other players at the table to verify that a hand is dead. If there is another hand she could be playing then she is not dead. If other players say that the only hand she could be playing is concealed then, yes, the hand is dead and the player ceases to pick and discard. Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-69390098824826104112019-10-30T17:36:28.242-04:002019-10-30T17:36:28.242-04:00after 2 exposures, the player realized she was pla...after 2 exposures, the player realized she was playing a "closed" hand. Can she declare herself to be "dead'?hedygagahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03038186788473846410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-46012574450039178772019-06-27T11:04:25.325-04:002019-06-27T11:04:25.325-04:00The League has ruled that if a player calls a tile...The League has ruled that if a player calls a tile and exposes mahjongg in error, then that tile stays with the dead hand. However, if the tile was called by two players who needed it for mahjongg, then the tile can be claimed by the second player for her mahjongg only. (Not just exposure).Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-1327323800499519822019-06-26T12:09:20.045-04:002019-06-26T12:09:20.045-04:00Here's a situation that came up recently. One...Here's a situation that came up recently. One player called for a flower to make a pair and declared mah jongg. As she exposed her hand, she realized that she had too many tiles and declared herself dead. The question arose as to whether or not another player could call the flower that the first player called for her pair in error. In other words, was that flower still a live tile? <br />It was already on the players rack as part of the pair she thought would give her mah jongg. <br />Thanks for your advice on this matter.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03289445516489974365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-75613151383663425562018-11-15T13:37:25.224-05:002018-11-15T13:37:25.224-05:00Thank You.Thank You.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01457355822543273430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-49376433964108867192018-09-19T12:55:42.805-04:002018-09-19T12:55:42.805-04:00While there is no written official rule prohibitin...While there is no written official rule prohibiting this, it is discourteous to make such an announcement, on a number of levels. Firstly, she could be wrong! Second, it may, and probably would cheat the player whose hand she announces out of a win. If the other players were unaware of the hand or thought she was playing something else, they might make different decisions about what to throw. It also cheats players out of a learning opportunity to figure things out for themselves. Your group needs to discuss this with the offending player, as it's really not fair. It's one thing if you're an instructor playing with a group of newbies, but quite another, and somewhat condescending, if you are playing with players who already know how to play.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-9347711873465652072018-09-17T22:37:45.851-04:002018-09-17T22:37:45.851-04:00we have a player that figures out another players ...we have a player that figures out another players hand and announces it to everyone should she do this?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01457355822543273430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-68920725296997667122018-01-28T22:27:44.361-05:002018-01-28T22:27:44.361-05:00Once the player exposed three souths, she could no...Once the player exposed three souths, she could not "take back" the exposure. If she had another south or joker in her hand she could have added it to her exposure before she discarded. However, she did not do that. She was declared dead and she accepted the challenge. The challenge is between the player who makes the challenge and the player who is challenged. Other players should not weigh in. That said, however, it is best to wait until a player discards before challenging the hand, lest she think a bit more and change the exposure before accepting the challenge.<br />As to the second part of your question, if you exposed more tiles than you intended in your exposure, you are allowed to make an adjustment before you discard. You may add to to subtract from the exposure. This is an official rule. Playing by the official rules should make for a friendly game, and if disputes arise the rules should be consulted or the National Mah Jongg League called for a ruling.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-28464196068166645322018-01-28T11:19:15.372-05:002018-01-28T11:19:15.372-05:00When declaring a person dead, is she dead even bef...When declaring a person dead, is she dead even before she discards her tile?<br />This was a very big bone of contention playing with my fellow players last week It turned into a huge argument The player even admitted she was dead after another player declared her dead She was playing a closed hand and called, then put up 3 Souths. I also declared her dead Then another player stated she was not dead because she hadn't discarded yet and she could have still taken back the tiles until she discarded BUT she had already been declared dead I know that the player who stated she wasn't dead hates for anyone to be declared dead because then the tiles left in the players hand and not revealed are dead <br />If we played a polite game, then when I exposed an extra tile on my rack by mistake, and they would not let me take it back, I felt as if we were not playing a friendly game and whats good for one is good for the other I hope I have explained this without confusion Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17503935850130265829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-4310520578124334762017-07-16T21:08:26.995-04:002017-07-16T21:08:26.995-04:00It depends on how the other players went dead. If...It depends on how the other players went dead. If someone declared mahjongg in error, and the other player threw in her tiles, then the remaining player gets paid twice the value of her hand by the person who declared mahjongg in error. However, if the players went dead for any other reason, then the game ceases and no one gets paid.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-85163572990393496432017-07-14T00:54:31.802-04:002017-07-14T00:54:31.802-04:00When playing MJ with 3 people and two players have...When playing MJ with 3 people and two players have dead hands is the remaining player the winner (collect money from bets)?Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16806319282523951423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-20025784962110358242017-02-11T16:41:19.341-05:002017-02-11T16:41:19.341-05:00f a player challenges a hand, the player who is ch...f a player challenges a hand, the player who is challenged must either admit that her hand is dead and stop playing or deny that her hand is dead, in which case she does not have to prove why she believes her hand is still good. She continues to play until the end of the game. If at the end of the game it turns out that she was really dead at the time of the challenge, she must pay the challenger .25 cents. If it turns out that she was not dead after all (she must show that she was not dead), then the challenger pays her .25 cents.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-24589649588029429402017-02-06T19:39:45.346-05:002017-02-06T19:39:45.346-05:00If a player asks another player if her hand is dea...If a player asks another player if her hand is dead and it isn't, does the asking player incur a penalty?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09637242570019233354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-52090494444247047982016-11-11T10:47:29.353-05:002016-11-11T10:47:29.353-05:00If the first exposure had jokers, those jokers may...If the first exposure had jokers, those jokers may still be exchanged. The exposure that made her dead should go back in the rack so there is no confusion. The first exposure stays out. If the player admits to being dead, she does not continue playing, and there is no further penalty. If she disputes that she is dead, then play continues. At the end of the game, she must state what hand she was playing at the time of the declaration. If she was dead, she must pay the person who called her dead 25 cents. If she was not dead, the person who called her dead pays her .25 This is in addition to whatever the winner is paid.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5523295336271690820.post-75135120391706229092016-11-11T10:46:53.160-05:002016-11-11T10:46:53.160-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10423416390524043298noreply@blogger.com